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Tallaght Stadium, Dublin Finally the roofers have arrived

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Posted 31 August 2008 - 04:40 PM






From the Shamrock Rovers website. I passed in the car but its hard to gt a decent photo. The ones from Rovers website are great anyhow. [img="http://www.shamrockrovers.ie/gallery/index.php?Qwd=./Stadium&Qiv=thumbs&Qis=M"]http://www.shamrockr...x...humbs&Qis=M[/img]
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Posted 02 September 2008 - 04:24 PM

It's very "continental" looking, would that be a fair enough assumption?
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Posted 02 September 2008 - 10:36 PM

QUOTE (carrickally @ Sep 2 2008, 06:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's very "continental" looking, would that be a fair enough assumption?

Yes, though if you look at Croke Park the roof is similar design. I would'nt like to sit on the first few rows in the rain as the roof only covers about 80% of the seats, again reminiscent of continental grounds and Croke Park. Maybe that was why the Gaw Gaws wanted to get access to the ground. There was an announcement of extra grants for the stadium but no news if that means another stand or simply money to finish off the single stand and put in some terracing. Theyyre doing a good job on the stadiums walls etc, looks like a fairly upmarket job. I will definately go along when the stadium opens next season. Incidently the guy taking the photos on Rovers website must have access to the Hotel built behind the grandstand, the Hotel dwarfs the stand and must give a great view of the pitch.
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Posted 03 September 2008 - 11:34 PM

QUOTE (footloose @ Sep 3 2008, 12:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (carrickally @ Sep 2 2008, 06:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's very "continental" looking, would that be a fair enough assumption?

Yes, though if you look at Croke Park the roof is similar design. I would'nt like to sit on the first few rows in the rain as the roof only covers about 80% of the seats, again reminiscent of continental grounds and Croke Park. Maybe that was why the Gaw Gaws wanted to get access to the ground. There was an announcement of extra grants for the stadium but no news if that means another stand or simply money to finish off the single stand and put in some terracing. Theyyre doing a good job on the stadiums walls etc, looks like a fairly upmarket job. I will definately go along when the stadium opens next season. Incidently the guy taking the photos on Rovers website must have access to the Hotel built behind the grandstand, the Hotel dwarfs the stand and must give a great view of the pitch.


I think the grants are just to finish off the stand that's there. They're going to be putting temporary seating on the other three sides for now.
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Posted 10 September 2008 - 08:56 AM

That stand is looking great, I can't wait to make a visit...
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Posted 10 September 2008 - 06:26 PM

QUOTE (An Englishman in Cork @ Sep 10 2008, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That stand is looking great, I can't wait to make a visit...



Press release - Monday 08/09/08

RAPID funding to contribute to new home for Shamrock Rovers F.C.
– Ó Cuív

Éamon Ó Cuív, Minister for Community, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs today confirmed that this year's RAPID Sports Capital Top-Up funding includes a grant of €825,000 for Tallaght Stadium, home to Shamrock Rovers Football Club. This top-up funding is in addition to the grant of €2,750,000 allocated by the Department of Arts, Sports and Tourism earlier this year.

"This stadium will be a huge boost for Tallaght," said Minister Ó Cuív, "and this project is particularly significant in that it will serve three different RAPID areas: Fettercairn, Killenarden and Jobstown. The new facility will be a wonderful community resource and, I am sure, a source of great local pride. I understand that this stadium will be home to Shamrock Rovers F.C., the most successful club in Irish football history, and this will be an inspiration for many young players in Tallaght.

"Participation in sports at all levels – as players, trainers, supporters and spectators – brings people together and creates a feeling of solidarity within the community. I am confident that Tallaght Stadium will contribute greatly to this sense of community in Tallaght, and I am looking forward to seeing the plans for this new stadium when I announce the full list of RAPID Sports Capital Top-Up Programme allocations in Tallaght this Wednesday."

"This is great news for Shamrock Rovers and the people of Tallaght," said Hoops' Chairman Jonathan Roche. "It also shows how sport benefits the local community. As well as bringing professional football to the area, Rovers offer sporting and educational opportunities through our scholarship schemes and underage section. It's a unique and all-encompassing package that reflects the club's determination and ability to make a positive impact on the lives of people in Tallaght."

Editor's Note:
The RAPID (Revitalising Areas by Planning, Investment and Development) Programme is a focused Government initiative to target the 46 most disadvantaged areas in the country. The Programme aims to ensure that priority attention is given to tackling the spatial concentration of poverty and social exclusion within the 46 designated areas through targeting state resources, available under the National Development Plan. The Programme also calls on Government Departments and State Agencies to bring about better co-ordination and closer integration in the delivery of services. There are two Strands of the Programme - Strand I targets 25 urban areas, while Strand II targets 20 provincial towns around the country. Following a Government decision, Ballyfermot was granted RAPID status in June 2006 bringing the total number of areas targeted to 46.

RAPID Sports Capital Top-Up Programme, 2004-2008
Successful applications from RAPID areas under the Sports Capital Programme run by the Department of Arts, Sports and Tourism can receive additional top-up funding of up to 30% of the original grant amount from the Department of Community, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs. Each year, successful applications from RAPID areas that have been endorsed by the Area Implementation Team (AIT) are considered for top-up funding. Since 2005, applications that are outside the RAPID boundaries, but that serve the RAPID communities are treated as valid RAPID applications, provided that both the AIT and the City/County Development Board (CDB) endorse them.


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Tel: 01 647 3156 Fax: 01 667 0826 / 087 7956378 Layla de Cogan Chin:
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Posted 11 September 2008 - 10:30 AM

QUOTE (JohnnyCface @ Sep 4 2008, 12:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the grants are just to finish off the stand that's there. They're going to be putting temporary seating on the other three sides for now.

Is the medium-term plan to put an identical stand on t'other side?
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Posted 11 September 2008 - 07:47 PM

Yeah I've seen artists impressions for similar-looking stand on the far side.
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Posted 19 September 2008 - 12:01 AM

Roof finished


Apparently 2,500 temp (uncovered) seats so should be 5,700ish when done.
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Posted 19 September 2008 - 12:05 AM

QUOTE (Fookov @ Sep 19 2008, 02:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Roof finished


Apparently 2,500 temp (uncovered) seats so should be 5,700ish when done.

i am still waiting for Shabbagaz to ask when will it be finished?
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Posted 29 September 2008 - 09:14 PM

QUOTE (footloose @ Sep 19 2008, 02:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Fookov @ Sep 19 2008, 02:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Roof finished


Apparently 2,500 temp (uncovered) seats so should be 5,700ish when done.

i am still waiting for Shabbagaz to ask when will it be finished?

http://i17.photobuck...ose_/SRFC-1.jpg

Nice photo from Shamrock Rovers website.
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Posted 29 September 2008 - 11:50 PM

Interesting curvage there... I remember reading that the ultimate plan was for a 10,000 seater... going for a bowl then?
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Posted 30 September 2008 - 07:12 AM

QUOTE (Fookov @ Sep 30 2008, 01:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Interesting curvage there... I remember reading that the ultimate plan was for a 10,000 seater... going for a bowl then?

At a claimed cost of over 9 million Euro so far, I wonder will it ever become a boring bowl. You would wonder how they could have spent so much, there are a few outbuildings, offices and clubrooms plus the site has been walled in but 9.0m? I believe the previous attempt to build the ground resulted in the previous Rovers wasting at least 1.0m on wages and other bills.
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Posted 14 October 2008 - 10:36 AM

QUOTE (footloose @ Sep 30 2008, 08:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Fookov @ Sep 30 2008, 01:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Interesting curvage there... I remember reading that the ultimate plan was for a 10,000 seater... going for a bowl then?

At a claimed cost of over 9 million Euro so far, I wonder will it ever become a boring bowl. You would wonder how they could have spent so much, there are a few outbuildings, offices and clubrooms plus the site has been walled in but 9.0m? I believe the previous attempt to build the ground resulted in the previous Rovers wasting at least 1.0m on wages and other bills.

Doesn't sound so much for a 6000 capacity stand if it's high quality. Shrewsbury spent £12m on the New Meadow and look what they got for 10k seats.
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Posted 14 October 2008 - 11:21 AM


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Doesn't sound so much for a 6000 capacity stand if it's high quality. Shrewsbury spent £12m on the New Meadow and look what they got for 10k seats.
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Trouble is its only a stand that holds less than 3,000 and not all of those are covered by the roof. Nice roof but those in front will get wet. Is the New meadow that bad?
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Posted 14 October 2008 - 11:33 AM

Is that all? I was going off Fookov's post of 5700.
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Posted 14 October 2008 - 11:55 AM

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Is that all? I was going off Fookov's post of 5700.

5,700 aparently includes temporary seats. its hard to get an exact figure. I counted the steps and it looks like 18 rows of seating. the 3 furthest back rows have an obstructed view caused by the concrete uprights for the roof. Not sure if they will cram in all seats or leave out the ones with a bad view. 18 rows would indicate 3,300 to 3,600 depending on spacing etc.
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Posted 14 October 2008 - 12:12 PM

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18 rows would indicate 3,300 to 3,600 depending on spacing etc.

183/200 seats per row?

Not sure what the average is, Molineux has 278 in the Steve Bull lower first row rising to 282 by the last row. With the cranks ours is a longer stand than most, but then this one does look a long stand as well so say 278 x 18 would be 5004, minus vomitories, etc.
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Posted 14 October 2008 - 12:16 PM

QUOTE (South Bank @ Oct 14 2008, 02:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (footloose @ Oct 14 2008, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
18 rows would indicate 3,300 to 3,600 depending on spacing etc.

183/200 seats per row?

Not sure what the average is, Molineux has 278 in the Steve Bull lower first row rising to 282 by the last row. With the cranks ours is a longer stand than most, but then this one does look a long stand as well so say 278 x 18 would be 5004, minus vomitories, etc.

Maybe you are right but i remember a much lower capacity. Whats a capacity for some other stand. I though Chelsea East stand had 220 seats.
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Posted 14 October 2008 - 12:30 PM

Oh well, we'll see. Even say 3500 for €9m, that only £7m, so multiply it by 3 and it's £21m, which compared to the £12m New Meadow or £14m Colchester one sounds about right if it's a higher quality.
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Posted 14 October 2008 - 02:37 PM

For a straight stand along the long side of a pitch you're looking at about 200-220 seats (130-150 for ends). Anyway, a good chunk of the €9m must include land, so it's not going to be that much to build extra stands.

Is it SRFC paying for it or SDCC?
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Posted 14 October 2008 - 08:17 PM

SDCC are paying for it now. I assume most of the 9 million was paid by Rovers before the council took over, although I'm open to correction.
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Posted 14 October 2008 - 08:58 PM

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SDCC are paying for it now. I assume most of the 9 million was paid by Rovers before the council took over, although I'm open to correction.

Rovers I remember got about 2.5 m in Grants some time about 1999, they used a good bit of this starting the main structure but also 'diverted' nearly 1m to pay wages and debts. The building work was halted initially due to disputes with tradesmen and unions, then the club went into receivership. I think the land was provided more or less free by the council or possibly a charge of about 1.0m South Dublin County Council took back ownership of the whole project when the planning permission ran out. I cant remember exactly but the former owners of the club claimed they still owed the land and were hoping to sell it for housing. Rovers have had so many owners in recent years its hard to know what happened to the ownership. Even now the council own the ground they are getting state grants but some of the figures are just figures quoted in the press. I havnt read any real details such as they are ''getting 2m to finish off the grandstand '' or xyz to put up temporary seating.
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Posted 10 December 2008 - 11:34 AM

Ignoring the suggestive foreground, the seats are going in at Tallaght


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Posted 10 December 2008 - 01:12 PM

Interesting colours. Nigeria vs Spain for the opening game?
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Posted 10 December 2008 - 02:42 PM

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Ignoring the suggestive foreground, the seats are going in at Tallaght


I saw them on Sunday from the car, they look absolutly ghastly. Why not just all green, and maybe a bit of white.
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Posted 11 December 2008 - 08:10 AM

The architect has said that because the ground is there to be used by the whole community, and not just Shamrock Rovers, that it would be unfair to have just green and white seats! They also said they were going for the multi-coloured Sporting Lisbon look, so that even when the stand was empty it would look full.
Now it sort of works in Lisbon because every second seat is a different colour, but I can't see how they could think blocks of the same colour would work. Methinks a fella down the pub had a few red and yellow seats going cheap tongue.gif
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Posted 11 December 2008 - 12:42 PM

Got a very continental look about the place.
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Posted 11 December 2008 - 01:49 PM

QUOTE (JohnnyCface @ Dec 11 2008, 09:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The architect has said that because the ground is there to be used by the whole community, and not just Shamrock Rovers, that it would be unfair to have just green and white seats! They also said they were going for the multi-coloured Sporting Lisbon look, so that even when the stand was empty it would look full.
Now it sort of works in Lisbon because every second seat is a different colour, but I can't see how they could think blocks of the same colour would work. Methinks a fella down the pub had a few red and yellow seats going cheap tongue.gif

Well a more pleasing colour scheme would be light and dark blue, which are the Dublin colours and also South Dublin Council are paying. I'd say its just cheap nasty seats.
I wonder is there a subliminal message buried somewhere in the seats? You can kinda make out 'CLUB SS'
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Posted 11 December 2008 - 01:58 PM

I've lifted this from another forum:


SDCC are extremely pissed with the architect and are looking for the seats to be changed to green and white to match the rest of the stand, Only problem is it could set them back another €10K.....

On other news, There is a strong possibility that the second stand could be well advanced by the time Rovers start playing out there, SDCC are in the process of getting cost's to build phase 2 at the moment with the hope to have the prices in this side of xmas.... They are pricing an onsite concrete build like phase 1 and off site pre build type (which could possibly mean it will be done before the start of the season.....
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